Bigfoot Dropped off by UFO?

Tales of Bigfoot sightings and ufos and aliens, from Lon Strickler at Phantoms and Monsters:

Phantoms and Monsters: Pulse of the Paranormal: then the red eye appeared again looking at me and the dogs heading south thru the small wood between me and my neighbors house. It stood there for about 30 seconds and when I started to raise my light, the eye disappeared. to me it looked like a lizard's eye. It didn't seem in wanting to harm us so I didn't chase it. My question is I've been hearing reports about Bigfoot being dropped off or taken up in their space craft, suppose that's what the alien was looking for? (Phantoms and Monsters)

Dr. Johnson's Supernatural Sasquatch

The War
I don't know any of the participants personally, though I have corresponded via blog comments with Steven Streufert in the past.  Nor am I a participant in this "war" between various Bigfooters. That qualifier done with, I am interested in this story concerning Dr. Johnson's paranormal-Sasquatch experiences, and those Bigfoot researchers who scream "No blasted damn WAY!!!!!!" So, the controversy. Bigfoot researcher team The Bluff Creek Project explored the area where Dr. Johnson says is the place where these paranormal events take place:

Bigfoot Evidence: Debate Rages On Between Warring Bigfoot Factions: “So for a while now we have been looking for Dr J’s Southern Oregon Habituation Area so we could visit it and debunk his supernatural claims. (Italics mine.)

The assumption on their part is that Matthew Johnson's claims are nonsense.

To be fair to the anti-paranormalers, they make the point that the area Johnson says is the supernatural Sasquatch hot spot is too close to the highway and houses for any Bigfoot to hang around. And the vortex Johnsons speaks of is probably caused by floodlights:

 We investigated Adam Davies portal as well and we are sure we have that figured out. There is a house 3/4 mile away with flood lights on it that point up the ridge. You can see it when you look low through the trees. (Bigfoot Evidence.)

Dr. Johnson has responded, and Streufert promises to present more soon on this on his blog. According to Johnson, the Sasquatch have told him it's "Time to move on."

Bigfoot Evidence links to the entire article at Bigfoot Junction: Dr. Johnson's Feud with the Bluff Creek Project.  That blog entry makes it clear they think the paranormal-Bigfoot connection is ludicrous crap.

As I wrote at the beginning of this post, I don't know any of the people involved in this. I don't know if Johnson is full of it or not. As with UFO experiences of the odder kind -- telepathic communications, alien visitations, visits to other planets, giant owls, floating through walls, and oh yes, sex with reptilians -- there is that realm where the weird gets decidedly weirder. Those of us living in this realm frequently feel we have to take sides. Not just sides but firm and solid stances that avow YES! or, NO! Then there are those of us who've had our own weird experiences, (yep, like me) who don't know what to make of it, really, and maybe aren't ready to fully embrace the YES! side, but will not stand with the NO! side. And in no way be quick to snort and laugh and set out to debunk the weirder weird. (Because remember: there are those that think the most level headed salt of the earth no nonsense Bigfoot researcher-camper-hunter-outdoorsperson who spits on anything remotely suggesting a UFO/paranormal Bigfoot connection, is nothing more than complete loony tunes by many.  It's a loop of relativeness.)

Psychic-UFO-Paranormal Bigfoot: Oregon and Beyond
Tales of psychic Bigfoot, of Bigfoot as alien, or UFOnaut, or supernatural creature, are not new. Oregon alone has its share of strange Bigfoot lore. Stan Johsnon (deceased) self-published his encounters with Sasquatch on his Sutherlin ranch that included travels with Bigfoot in UFOs and telepathic communications. The story of "Flix", the white Bigfoot in Albany, Oregon in the early 1960s, included UFOs and psychic conversations between the creature and humans. (That's how we know his name was "Flix"; he conveyed that to the psychic who interviewed him.) Ida Kannenberg, author and UFO witness and channeler, co-wrote with Lee Trippet My Brother Is a Hairy Man and discusses telepathic communications with Bigfoot in the Oregon coastal range.

These tales of strange Bigfoot encounters exist, and exist well beyond just Oregon. As with UFO research, Bigfoot research cannot dismiss these encounters simply because they're too fantastic.


There is one more thing. Matthew Johnson, a psychologist, saw a Bigfoot in 2000 while hiking with his family. This sighting was a profound experience for Johnson, and "haunted" him for years. (I relate to this feeling; with me, my sighting of an orange orb UFO is something that has stayed with me all these decades, and is what brought me into this field.) Then something even deeper, more profound, and certainly weird, happened to Matthew Johnson. And that is the whole supernatural-vortex-paranormal thing happening now.

Rather than dismiss Johnson as a nut, or a liar, or the whole topic as worthless (even harmful to Bigfoot research, some will say) let's look at the pattern.

Transformations: Changes in the Pattern
Witness Johnson sees a Sasquatch, something that very deeply affected him. Years later, his experiences continue, and transform. They transform from a simple sighting -- if you can call seeing a Bigfoot "simple" -- to the other wordily. The question is, of course, a big huge screaming Why? 

Is Johnson's long term relationship the catalyst for the weirder events he's reported? Is there a symbiotic dance that has to occur between human witness and Sasquatch in order to experience the highly anomalous?

Yes, the other obvious questions should be addressed as well. For example, is Johnson off his psychologically trained rocker? Is he a liar, a hoaxer?

But who's to judge if he's "crazy?" The liar/hoaxer element should be clear enough to prove. The rest is much harder to get at it, and much easier to ignore.

When Was Your First Time?

When was your first time hearing about Bigfoot? Not seeing a Sasquatch, but the first time you heard that such a creature existed.

My first time was when I was in my early teens -- roughly 1968. I think it was an episode of You Asked For It, where the program aired some of the Patterson footage. But I can't find a source for that, and it's possible I'm hazy on that memory.  (The dates for that program were: 1950 to 1959, with later incarnations in 1972, 1981, and 2000.) I do have a memory of watching a newsreel of the Patterson footage in the early 1970s when I worked in a movie theater. (Bigfoot on the big screen!)  So, in my teens if not earlier, was when I first became aware of the existence of Bigfoot.

I remember two stories from my teens about Bigfoot. One, from my brother, who insisted close friends of his who were camping in Northern California, were awakened at night and heard a large creature throwing oil drums at them. My brother was convinced, as were his friends, this was not being done by a bear. Both my brother and I were in our teens, so who knows if he was teasing me or not.

The other story I heard, again in my teens, was about Bigfoot living in the Topanga Canyon (California)  area, as I wrote for Tim Binnall's site, also here. As I wrote in those articles, I'm not that sure the people telling the stories actually believed them. They were just passing along a good story; more of a FOAF (folklore term: "friend of a friend")  tale, regardless of belief factor.

For myself, however, I believed back then that Bigfoot exists. And I still believe it.

"Trickster's Go ashore"

Something most definitely lost in translation here:

Regan Lee On The Paranormal Bigfoot by Marlaina Lucas: Regan Lee On The Paranormal Bigfoot:
At her "Trickster's Go ashore" border at "Binall of America", Regan Lee says: "The statement of charm Bigfoot' and creepy or paranormal phenomena amid other unknown creatures is synchronize for some to encompass mischievously. (It was for me, at first, heaps duration ago.) But go deeper, and you'll drop something fixed stranger: some classify of uncommon connection along with hazy military, paramilitary, scrutinize control and psy-op factions and outlandish creatures, such as Mothman, Bigfoot, and others." (UFO Brief Case.net) 

My column at Tim Binnall's site is Trickster's Realm, but I do like the jaunty idea of trickster's going ashore.

Frame 352 Cited by Skeptic Joe Nickell

Found this, from October of 2014 :Bigfoot at Mount Rainier? - CSI, by debunker Joe Nickell. Thought it funny he's cited this blog in his notes on the article, which, of course, pulls about Bigfoot, "proving" it to be a fantasy. Still.

New Photos May Show Bigfoot's Cloaking Ability | Mysterious Universe

New Photos May Show Bigfoot's Cloaking Ability | Mysterious Universe: According to Scott Carpenter, author of “The Bigfoot Field Journal,” Bigfoot goes into a cloaking or predator mode (named after the movie “Predator”) by using infrasound to convert water vapor in the air around it into microscopic prisms that reflect (maybe a better term is “deflect”) light away from their bodies. He claims this leaves a telltale distorted image that doesn’t quite match the background (leading skeptics to suspect editing) and says he has taken video footage of a Bigfoot in this cloaked or predator mode. (Mysterious Universe)

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Didn't See Sasquatch, Yet . . .

Updated: I tried, in this little sketch I did today, to capture the looming and overwhelming terror of this experience. The darkness and dark blue coming over the hill is heavy with this … dark energy that was simply huge.  Still working on it.

Overwhelming Hill Energy, colored pencil, Regan Lee

A few years ago I was driving in a rural area not too far from home. (Oregon.) Just out for a drive, nice day. Going further out, up a hill. I pulled over at the top of the hill to enjoy the view. Uphill side, valley below, delightful. Behind me, hills looming, and trees. No homes, no buildings, just out there. And yet, as it is in this area, only about twenty minutes from "civilization." Anyway, standing there for not more than five minutes, when suddenly, I had the most disturbing and, all right, frightening, experience.

One minute I'm happy, enjoying the view, next moment, I'm terrified. I mean, literally, frightened out of my mind. Overwhelming sense of fear, terror, danger. This feeling was mine, yes, being afraid of something, but that "something" was coming at me! It was huge, roiling down the hills behind me.

This was no panic attack. I've had true panic attacks, and this was nothing at all like those. This was something I've never experienced before or since. (Although, quite similar to an experience I had at night in a graveyard.)

I could almost hear a voice within this huge energy wave -- and that's what it was, an unseen but most definitely present wave -- that in very clear terms did not want me there. I had the crystal clear thought put into my head: GET OUT!

So I did.

For some reason, and to my surprise, there's a nagging Bigfoot connection in my mind to this experience. I personally don't immediately associate negative or threatening experiences with Sasquatch, though I'm aware of those stories of course. Why I have this association I don't know. Aside from my personal opinions on negative Sasquatch encounters, this experience had nothing to do with any kind of sighting of a Bigfoot. Or anything else. I didn't see anything, in the physical. No UFOs, no ghosts, no apparitions, and no Bigfoot.

I think this energy was some sort of nature-spirit energy, or force. Maybe something having to do with some of the forces responsible for the disappearances David Paulides researches. (See the "Missing 411" books.) (And I want to make it clear this is my speculation on my personal experience, and nothing Paulides himself has said.)

Frame 352 Cited in "Haunted Oregon"

I discovered today that this blog, Frame 352: The Stranger Side of Sasquatch, is cited in the book Haunted Oregon, by Andy Weeks.  No mention of moi by name, but the blog is mentioned as "…at least according to the blog Frame 352…"

The book is among the current display of Books are Fun, a school district wide book vendor that is set up each month in school staff rooms. I noticed the book during my lunch break; and naturally went right to Haunted Oregon. Surprised and delighted to discover this blog was mentioned!

"Bigfoot, ETs and Us" from Bizarre Bigfoot

Great post at SAR's Bizarre Bigfoot:

Bigfoot, ETs and Us | Bizarre Bigfoot: If we can imagine a world where Sasquatch/Bigfoot has been 'discovered', ie., solid video from multiple sources, along with the acknowledgment of academia, including the addition of the species to the taxonomic record, how will this scenario play out from that point?

So read on...

Lon Stickler on Bigfoot as Government Experiment

At Lon Strickler's Phantoms and Monsters, Lon updates a post he wrote in May, 2014. Questions from his encounter: was the "Bigfoot" like creature a government experiment? Why no police records of his report? And so on. Scary, creepy and full of the fringe of the fringe conspiratorial musings, but that doesn't make it any less intriguing --- or, possible. One aspect of stories like these is that, well, there are stories like these. There isn't just one strange Bigfoot tale like about, there are many. A large body of stories out there of Bigfoot, BHMs, (Big Hairy Monsters), government's awareness (if not complicity), aliens, and UFOs.

Phantoms and Monsters: Pulse of the Paranormal: Is There A Bigfoot Conspiracy?

Over the past several months and since my appearance on 'Monsters and Mysteries in America' was first aired, I've received many inquiries concerning my encounter on May 9, 1981 near Sykesville, MD. To be honest, I've had a few lingering questions about my sighting as well...in particular, 'what did I actually see?' Was it a Bigfoot...or something else? At the time, I called it a 'Bigfoot' because, frankly, that was the only way I could have described it. It wasn't human...it wasn't an ape. I have tried to comprehend exactly what it was I witnessed.

One of the more consistent questions I have received concerns the quick reaction by officials after my phone call to local police. I feel that this being had been under close surveillance at the time I witnessed it. The only two scenarios that I feel may be plausible are either: 1) there were other witnesses that made reports earlier that day or, 2) this being had escaped from an unknown location. (Lon Strickler)

Yahoos out to Kill Bigfoot on Destination America

Airing October 24th:

Destination America Will Be Killing Bigfoot in October - Dread Central: Hamilton has hunted Bigfoot since one terrorized him as a child. He and Vietnam vet Jim Lansdale lead a team of commandos, named the Gulf Coast Bigfoot Research Organization (GCBRO), to find and kill a Bigfoot in order to prove its existence to science and to protect the public from a future attack by a rogue Bigfoot. (Dread Central.com)

Not surprising that our culture has morphed from interesting programs on the possible reality of strange creatures, to the possibility of killing one of these strange creatures. All in a disingenuous move to prove to science that such a creature really exists.


A team full of "commandos" armed to the teeth and tricked out in ghillie suits will hunt for Bigfoot. The only good thing about this is the almost 100% certainty these clown shoes will never find Bigfoot in the first place.

Bigfoot in Vietnam

This item about a Bigfoot type creature of Vietnam, which was seen by American soldiers. Intriguing!

A bunch of U.S. troops think they saw Bigfoot in Vietnam: Gary Linderer was on a six-man patrol with the 101st Airborne’s Long Range Reconnaissance Patrols. While struggle through the underbrush, he ran into “deep set eyes on a prominent brow… five feet tall, with long muscular arms.” The creature “walked upright with broad shoulders and a heavy torso.” His battle buddies told him he just saw a rock ape, but Linderer had seen Rock Apes before. This was no Rock Ape. (Blake Stilwell)

Patterson-Gimlin Film Analysis/ Open Lines - Shows - Coast to Coast AM

Patterson-Gimlin Film Analysis/ Open Lines - Shows - Coast to Coast AM: Veteran film industry special makeup effects designer Bill Munns joins guest host Connie Willis (email) for a discussion on his analysis of the controversial Patterson-Gimlin Bigfoot film. Dubbing the creature, "Patty," Munns addresses the question of whether she was indeed a genuine cryptid, or just a person in a costume.

Does the Government Know About Bigfoot Synchronicity

By way of Oregon Bigfoot researcher Toby Johnson, this item about a BLM map and Bigfoot.

I've used the word "synchronicity" in the title because I've been thinking about a piece I want to write about the government's knowledge -- if any -- of Bigfoot's existence. Not a new idea of course but one I've been a bit "meh" on, until the other day. For some reason, on my way to and back from the Oregon coast, I was thinking very heavily on this. Woke up this morning thinking about the subject. Then find Toby's link …


▶ Oregon Sasquatch Symposium/ BLM - YouTube:

Newly Released Unedited Complete Footage Of The Patterson Film! | Bigfoot Crossroads

 From Bigfoot Crossroads blog, Steven Streufert's  enhanced Patterson footage:

"Steven Streufert, owner of Bigfoot Books and member of the Bluff Creek Project, just posted this rarely seen unedited footage of the Patterson Film." (Bigfoot Crossroads)Newly Released Unedited Complete Footage Of The Patterson Film! | Bigfoot Crossroads:

From S.A.R at Bizarre Bigfoot: "Bigfoot and the Gov'mint"

SAR at Bizarre Bigfoot has a piece on the government's knowledge of Bigfoot. If the government knows BF exists, why the secrecy? That's a big question. I commented over there that, being a cynical person when it comes to government, the cover-up  -- and I believe there is one -- isn't to protect the creature, but protect the system.  In part, anyway. Who knows, we sure don't.

If you've read any of the Missing 411 books by David Paulides, one has to entertain the possibility of a Bigfoot type creature responsible in some way for the disappearances. Maybe. Now, I do not want to imply Paulides says this -- he doesn't. Any speculation along those lines is mine. This is all assuming Bigfoot is more than just  a "flesh and blood" creature.

Redfern at Cryptomundo: A Hairy Hand of the Horrific Kind

Nick Redfern on mysterious hairy hands that appear from nowhere...

Cryptomundo: A Hairy Hand of the Horrific Kind: Back in 2011, I wrote an article here at Mysterious Universe titled The Hairy Hands Horror. It begins as follows: “It was around the year 1910 that a weird and horrific saga began – on what is today the B3212 road, which can be found in the vicinity of the Dartmoor, England locales of Postbridge and Two Bridges. It became known as the mystery of the Hairy Hands. Somewhat disturbingly, a hairy, monstrous and unknown force would time and again violently lash out at unwary passing drivers, and which, in one case, reportedly even resulted in a tragic death for an unfortunate road-user.” (Nick Redfern)

Cryptomundo: Man Shoots a Bigfoot Near His Barn in Oregon

Cryptomundo: Man Shoots a Bigfoot Near His Barn in Oregon



A "Bigfoot Campfire Story" -- indeed. Would like to know where in Oregon.

Anywhere, guy shoots Bigfoot. Doesn't kill him, just wounds him, don't ya know. Wants to put the critter out of his misery; cuz it's dangerous ya know.. .

Cryptomundo: Bigfoot is not Paranormal

Cryptomundo links to Bigfoot Crossroads on how Bigfoot is not "paranormal."

Cryptomundo:Bigfoot is not Paranormal: Bigfoot is not paranormal.

But how do you know? Nobody knows anything about bigfoot. It’s all theory and speculation!

I repeat, bigfoot is not paranormal.

One thing to hold that opinion. However, reasons given at Crossroads are … odd. I would take the whole thing seriously if actual high strangeness cases were presented, with analysis on why, according to Bigfoot Crossroads, they weren't really high strangeness at all and don't prove Bigfoot as paranormal.

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