Bigfoot News | Bigfoot Lunch Club: Thom Powell Drinks the Ketchum Kool-Aid

I'm not on either side, (though I guess, if one has to even play the game and choose a side, I'm with Ketchum. Pretty much) but I respect both of these guys and appreciate each of their views. So here you go:Bigfoot News | Bigfoot Lunch Club: Thom Powell Drinks the Ketchum Kool-Aid

Cryptomundo:Finding Bigfoot on the Jeff Probst Show

On Cryptomundo, a clip of the Finding Bigfoot team on the Jeff Probst Show: Cryptomundo  Finding Bigfoot on the Jeff Probst Show. (I liked what Cliff said about Probst's use of the pronoun "he" to describe Bigfoot. Still wish they'd all stop using the term "Squatch" however.) Also liked what Ranee had to say. And she's the skeptic! :)

Ghost Hunting Theories: Are Bigfoot Ancient Giants' Feral Descendants?

Interesting theory, and not at all impossible:Ghost Hunting Theories: Are Bigfoot Ancient Giants' Feral Descendants?

Awesome Certified Bigfoot Sasquatch Hair RARE | eBay

No idea who this seller is, but can't resist sharing. Just think, you can own a Bigfoot hair! Description comes with a story:Awesome Certified Bigfoot Sasquatch Hair RARE | eBay

He was about to pull his gun up to take a shot when a big animal walking on two feet came rushing out of the brush. It was carrying a huge rock over its head and threw it at the nearest elk killing it. The animal then grabbed the elk by a leg and dragged it off. Now if you know elk, you just can’t drag one off, they are easily 300 to 600 lbs on the hoof.

And so on.

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(cross posted, with minor alterations at UFOMystic.)

After listening to another intriguing and spooky interview with David Paulides (Coast to Coast, George Knapp host) last night, I found myself rethinking not only Dr. Ketchum, but Bigfoot as well.

For awhile I was excited about what Dr. Melba Ketchum would find. So was last night's C2C host George Knapp, who interviewed Dr. Melba Ketchum some time ago. Lots of games, it seemed, lots of attacks, lots of the to be expected nonsense in the world of Bigfoot.  (UFO World doesn't fare any better in this context.) Then I was disappointed and jaded. Then I just didn't care. 

But if David Paulides's explanation on the entire Ketchum journey was accurate -- no journal would review her findings, etc. -- and if the evidence is truly what it says it is, then there's still hope. And bafflement, for it seems everyone just walked away from this. Of course, I haven't read the report, and Paulides pointed out that many who criticized Ketchum and the findings haven't actually read the thing. I can't comment much more than these idle musings of mine because I am not a scientist, and I haven't read the report; just the reports of reports. It is also too bad Ketchum seems to have behaved badly at times. Maybe this was due to simply being overwhelmed by her lone seeker status out there in Bigfoot Land. Lots of naivety, at best, and silly sloppy missteps seemed to have happened, adding to a carnival-like,  here we go again feeling in Bigfoot Land.  But all that can be ignored if the evidence is what it's supposed to be: Bigfoot is not a giant ape, but something completely different. That's huge of course and huger still: Bigfoot is both its own mysterious self, as well as part of us. Yet after a few people acknowledged this finding, people went missing. Some were offended, some laughed, but we haven't seen any paradigm shifting news stories break on CNN. 

Meanwhile, David Paulides continues his research into the strange stories of missing humans in parks and forests. Many of these missing are children. He alludes to the possibility;  Bigfoot, or a Bigfoot like creature, as being responsible for these disappearances. The few children who have been found alive after going missing for a few days have strange tales to tell of "ape men" and other high strangeness. In last night's interview on C2C, Paulides referred to Native Americans and their tales of Bigfoot -- as being human -- and their on-going relationships with this being. Yet, with some exceptions, most, including BF researchers, ignore this fact.

What's strange about the missing humans is that they disappear abruptly, often in daylight, often while in the near proximity of others. While logic says these missing people would be found downhill, or near water, they are often found (if found at all) quite a distance aways, and uphill, over extremely rough terrain difficult to cover. Very weird for adults, and much stranger still in the case of little children. Stories of "ape men," and other inexpiable events add to this mystery. Adding fuel to conspiratorial speculation (which doesn't mean it's invalid) is the presence of military in some of these cases, who act covertly and separate from parks authorities and local law enforcement agencies while ostensibly searching for the missing.

IF Bigfoot is responsible for these disappearances, that's cause for a shift in beliefs about we think Bigfoot is. Many of these stories contain really weird "high strangeness" elements that have always annoyed many a Bigfoot researcher. UFOs? Aliens? Underground beings -- reptilians? Of the latter, Paulides said he's received a few detailed emails about that subject, but he is unfamiliar with that realm and doesn't want to go there. He referenced John Mack and his work concerning abductions -- will we hear of a Bigfoot/UFO theory from Paulides in the future?

There's enough strangeness, and enough references to a Bigfoot creature, in Paulides missing persons work, to consider that Bigfoot is more than "just" a big ape, or strictly a flesh and blood creature. It's possible this BF being is a variation of Bigfoot, another type, related or something else altogether; something that looks like an "ape man" but clearly has abilities transcending ours at the moment.

'11 crazy Bigfoot conspiracy theories'

MSM fluff piece on the more outlandish theories on what Bigfoot is. Yes, aliens is an included topic. While I appreciate where they're coming from on much of this (even while disagreeing) I don't understand why "Bigfoot buries its dead" is considered a wacky theory. 11 crazy Bigfoot conspiracy theories - Yahoo! News

Nick Redfern:Lair of the Beasts: Bigfoot: The Problem of Food - Mania.com

"Lair of the Beasts: Bigfoot: The Problem of Food - Mania.com: Many researchers of the Bigfoot phenomenon take the view that the hairy, man-like beasts are some form of unknown ape. Or, they suggest that the creatures may represent a surviving, relic population of the presumed long-extinct, ancient ape known as Gigantopithecus, I, however, do not.


Rather, I take the stance that Bigfoot is stranger than either of the above scenarios; in fact, much stranger. Indeed, it’s fair to say I think Bigfoot is a beast of paranormal – rather than flesh and blood – origins. There’s a good reason I say that. It has to do with Bigfoot’s eating habits. Or, more correctly, it’s lack of eating habits.


This is something, without doubt, most noticeable when it comes to the matter of Bigfoot in Britain – for which literally dozens and dozens of reports exist."

Dr. Melba Ketchum and, Oh, ... sigh

I supported Melba Ketchum's efforts awhile back. I really didn't expect much to begin with, but I was hoping. But now, it just seems, well, you know. Read some here :Bigfoot News | Bigfoot Lunch Club: Ketchum Paper "Peer Reviewed" by Academic Professor, and catch up on related links at The Anomalist.

Bigfoot Expert Discusses his Sighting at MUFON Meeting - Sherman Oaks, CA Patch

Been long fascinated by David Paulides' research!Bigfoot Expert Discusses his Sighting at MUFON Meeting - Sherman Oaks, CA Patch

"Crowdsourcing Bigfoot"

From Ghost Theory, this item on Dr. Jeff Meldrum's latest plan to find Bigfoot. Sounds more promising than the balloon idea. Crowdsourcing Bigfoot. I wonder if the use of infra red and other ghost hunting technology would be useful? Wouldn't hurt. Such use easily moves away from the strict "flesh and blood" realm, and more so if we would include the use of psychics, pendulums, dowsing and other esoteric techniques, which even some ghost hunters avoid, favoring pure technical means. But I'm going off on a tangent here.

Think I'll sign up; why not.

Flix, the Creature in Conser Lake: Bigfoot, UFOs and Monsters in Oregon and Elsewhere by Regan Lee | LibraryThing

So damn embarrassing! I wrote this years ago and self published it, not even that, just photocopied it and sold it on ebay. I actually sold some. Of course now, I would never put out such a thing! I found it on this site, to my dismay!Flix, the Creature in Conser Lake: Bigfoot, UFOs and Monsters in Oregon and Elsewhere by Regan Lee | LibraryThing

Gratuitous Non-Bigfoot Blood Lust

Just my personal little war on a Bigfoot blog that shall not be named nor linked to, but once again I see they have posted footage (vintage TV) of someone killing a deer with his bare hands and drinking its blood, or some such. Details don't matter. What does matter is that this has nothing to do with Bigfoot, and everything to do with animal porn, to drive visitors to their site. Not the first time they've posted this type of blood lust crap; won't be the last. Their excuse, as they once posted, was something along the lines of (paraphrasing, naturally) "Bigfoot probably eats like this in the wild so why not it's all good."Disingenuous bullshit.

Sharon Eby Cornet: Vanishing Bigfoot and Anecdotal Accounts

Nice find! Thanks to S.A.R. who left a comment, with the suggestion I look up Sharon Eby Cornet (see post below.) More to come on this.Vanishing Bigfoot and Anecdotal Accounts

Local Bigfoot Sightings

Another story from someone I know who saw a Bigfoot one night while driving on a rural highway in Oregon.

Not much in way of details: it was fall, night, they (her friend) saw it cross the road. Both positive of what they saw.

Both also, as with all the stories I've personally heard from individuals, familiar with Oregon wildlife, and used to the outdoors. Camping, hunting, living in rural areas; they know what things are. And they know when something out of the ordinary looms up in front of their faces.

As always with stories like these, I have to wonder at the knee jerk reaction from debunkers and "skeptics." This woman was not lying. All the other people I've known, who have told me their stories, were not lying. They are also a diverse group of people in terms of age, profession, gender, etc. What they have in common is a familiarity of the local outdoors, and a love of the outdoors, and damn well know an elk from a bear from a coyote from a cougar. (One witness's Bigfoot sighting was such a profound experience this person continues to look for Bigfoot many years later.)

Spooky! 'Bigfoot or animals? Strange sounds coming from swamp on Umatilla Indian Reservation'

(thanks to Lesley Gunter for this link!) Bigfoot or animals? Strange sounds coming from swamp on Umatilla Indian Reservation (listen) | OregonLive.com. Audio of strange -- and even spooky -- sounds. They remind me of EVPs (electronic voice phenomena) in the sense there is that odd not-of-this-realm sensation. Also chuffing type sounds, chatterings, and almost human like sounds. I'd love to explore this; sadly, work schedule does not allow!

Of course the question of comparison comes to mind. Does this sound similar to baby foxes? Here is a site I found with several audio clips of various fox calls. Here's one that's described as having a human sounding voice at the end, and it does sound close to what's on the Umatilla tape.

Who can say. I'm no expert on fox or cougar sounds. It's possible that people in the area know what foxes and other animals of the region sound like, and wouldn't be so quick to jump to the Bigfoot connection.

It could be Bigfoot, it could be shape shifting entities, it could be fox season.

PENDLETON -- Baby foxes or Bigfoot?

The eerie late-night serenades began in November and emanate from a brushy swamp on the Umatilla Indian Reservation east of Pendleton. The cries range from high-pitched screams to basso profundo roars.

"It's causing an uproar around here," said Sylvia Minthorn, who lives in a tribal housing unit near the swamp, where she used to play as a child.

She's seen grown men's hair stand on end when the shrieks commence.

Colleen Chance, a tribal housing authority employee, keeps a recording of the howls on her iPhone.

"It's kind of spooky," she said. "Some say it's foxes, some say it's a female coyote and some say it's Sasquatch. I don't know what it is."

No Kill Philosophy: Bigfoot Reference Guide

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Found this site; they promote a No Kill view. However, I'm not sure how active they are at this time. Their forum messages don't appear to be current. The most recent thread I found was from 2010.Bigfoot Reference Guide:

We are a NO KILL organization. We firmly believe such an action is totally unnecessary, immoral, unwise, and disregards the rights of the Bigfoot by scheming to murder one, The Bigfoot peoples, while ordinarily very respectful of humans, will without hesitation use every means to protect one of their own from harm and will do whatever is necessary, including kill, in their own defense. We urge other researchers in this field to please not attempt to shoot or corner a Bigfoot, as this places people in harms way and frustrates the efforts of those who, like us, have been so successful in establishing friendly relations with these incredible people. Please respect these hidden Peoples as they respect us. Please joins us in our firm NO KILL convictions.

Mail Online: 'New Yeti resort to be opened in Siberia to encourage tourists to catch the Abominable Snowman'

Depending on one's point of view, this is either very cool, or it's another scheme to bring in tourism and the money that comes with it. Regardless of motivations, it is pretty cool. As to the money; can't blame them for that. But I'm wary of the push for "...tourists to find the elusive creature," along with a monetary reward. That will potentionally attract gun happy fools who think killing a Bigfoot/Yeti is justified. And the idea of containing a Yeti within a park designed for its captivity seems extremely unrealistic.

New Yeti resort to be opened in Siberia to encourage tourists to catch the Abominable Snowman | Mail Online: A new Yeti resort is to be opened in Russia to encourage tourists to find the elusive creature.

The planned Yeti Park in Sheregesh, Siberia will include a hotel and a museum, and is intended to attract those keen to be the first to prove the existence of the yeti.

The region's governor Aman Tuleyev has offered a 20,500 reward - one million roubles - to anyone who can catch a yeti and prove its existence. 'I'll sit down with him, chat and have a cup of tea,' he promised.

But the best part are the opinions of Igor Idimeshev,  "...deputy head of Sheregesh's local council in Siberia, and the man behind the new park" who says this about the Yeti's origins and characteristics:

And when I saw the yeti's eyes my only thought was that they are not from Earth - they are clearly of an extraterrestrial nature.

'To me, the yeti is an extraterrestrial creature. I believe that it is like a controller to look over things here on Earth.'

Mr Idimeshev added that the creature - known as Big Men by locals - could 'suddenly disappear and re-materialise'

He added: 'Another extraordinary thing is that yeti's hair is luminous at night, and also that the Yeti can walk on water.

'Every man round here sees him when he hunts. It's all right to mention the fact of meeting - but we don't go into the details of it, like where exactly it was, what he did do, or your luck will be gone.'

JREF Bigfoot Thread Eleveny-Million: "Bigfoot hunter is upset at being excluded from show"

Who knows how many Bigfoot threads there are at the JREF, I stopped counting a long time ago. But there are always new ones popping up, and here's one of them:Bigfoot hunter is upset at being excluded from show - JREF Forum

As usual, I will point out that it just makes me laugh to see so many separate threads about a creature the majority of members insist doesn't exist.

The thread linked to here is about Spike TV's planned program 10 Million Bigfoot Bounty, the show that offers prize money for finding Bigfoot. Thoroughly disgusting concept of course, since, in order to win the prize, one must show that they have a dead Bigfoot body.

Conser Lake Photos Uncreditied at Paranormal Albany, Oregon

Found this place on HUB looking for Conser Lake "monster" information:Paranormal Albany, Oregon. And saw that Mike Miner, who is an experienced writer/researcher in the field and therefore should know better, used two of my snapshots of Conser Lake without my permission, citation of source, or links back to relevant blogs.

So there you go.

Conser Lake, Millersburg Oregon. photo: Regan Lee

Path leading to Conser Lake, Millersburg OR. photo: Regan Lee

I actually don't mind people using my stuff without asking first BUT. And that's a huge BUT. I expect credit given, at the very least, and links back to appropriate blogs.

Today in Bigfoot History!: 1963, Conser Lake Oregon, White Hair Muscle Giant

From Today in Bigfoot History! this little summary of the Conser Lake Creature:1963, Conser Lake Oregon, White Hair Muscle Giant TODAY IN BIGFOOT HISTORY! What's really interesting to me however is the very long comment from someone claiming to be from the area and encountering the creature. Here's an excerpt (I left grammar, spelling as is):

Im just gonna say this about the Conser lake monster or Flix as you might hear it called…. It truly was fast and would SHINE after MOON or light hit it or would come to its white fur. Or was it truly WHITE n LIGHTNING fast when we came around its Lake hideout where MOON n SHINE its fur could be seen so it had to scare us away…? Those are BOLD words for me to say its the truth if you catch my drift. Or was it the truth is my BOLD words were the drift of what it was caught for? It was so long ago its hard to remember it STILL…haha. Or was it STILL I remember so long ago about the Conser lake monster being caught? Guess if your a certain type you see what I mean and knuckle heads and school kids are in awe of my strange and confusing ramblings unknown by them but known to some since we seen what’s being read not read what’s been seen… Too deep for you? So is the story of the Conser lake monster!!