Craigslist: 'Looking for a bigfoot story'

From about ten days ago, on the Eugene area Craigslist:Looking for a bigfoot story (McKenzie RIver (sic):

Greetings, new adventure TV series based out of Eugene-Springfield area is looking for a recent story to cover in a TV episode.

Do you know of a recent event with a sighting of Bigfoot or Orbs or Ghosts?

Like with real evidence, prints or good photos or video? Please let us know. If you story is selected, you can be in the episode if you like.

Thank you, Jack

NO KILL

The Uncomfortable Truth about Telepathy and Bigfoot | Lisa A. Shiel

Interesting look into the more anomalous aspects of Bigfoot from Lisa Shiel:

The Uncomfortable Truth about Telepathy and Bigfoot | Lisa A. Shiel: For awhile now a certain theory concerning Bigfoot has been gaining steam. The theory attempts to explain why Bigfoot seem to have psychological and/or physiological effects on witnesses, such as intense fear or the inability to move. What causes this, the theory goes, is a type of sound outside the human range of hearing called infrasound (some known animals do this). But how can we explain the reports of Bigfoot sending telepathic messages to witnesses?

If we skip the old “they’re crazy” idea, then perhaps we can look to science for an answer…strange-but-true science. A 2009 article on the New Scientist website discussed declassified data released by the U.S. Army under the Freedom of Information Act. The data describes technologies which can induce similar effects to those reported by some Bigfoot witnesses (and some UFO witnesses). What is the technology in question?

Microwaves.

Forbidden Bigfoot: Sasquatch Strangeness | Mysterious Universe

Forbidden Bigfoot: Sasquatch Strangeness | Mysterious Universe: Well, it’s time for me to get on my Bigfoot soapbox again. Or, in other words, get the collective blood-pressure of the “flesh and blood” brigade soaring through the roof. On several occasions here at Mysterious Universe, I have noted the undeniable fact that many people within the Bigfoot research arena will simply not address the theory that the creature is far more than a mere unknown animal. That is, aside from predictably attacking the theory. ~ Nick Redfern

Nick has a review of Lisa Shiel's Forbidden Bigfoot, and it's a good one! Excellent points. Redfern sticks to his opinions on Bigfoot being more than "flesh and blood" -- it's not a popular view to take.

Lisa Shiel's Forbidden Bigfoot, (and the Haters Who Hate It)

Speaking of Bigfoot, researcher Lisa Shiel's new book, Forbidden Bigfoot, is now available in print. (She had a version on Kindle earlier this year.) It's a completely interesting book, I like the way the material is presented, and I think it'll be a classic. Now I'm not just saying that because I'm one of the many who were interviewed for this book! Really!  I also have to say, and it's not at all expected (sigh) that so far, all the comments on Cryptomundo are sneering; they hate this kind of stuff. How DARE Bigfoot and cryptid research discuss, seriously, UFOs, or paranormal events??!!! Wow, the comments would really hurt, if it weren't for the fact I expected as much. But, there are many who are not so closed, thankfully. Anyway, here's the link , and Nick Redfern, also featured in the book, promises us a review soon!

Loren Coleman Comments on No Kill

I like what Loren Coleman wrote in the comments section at Cryptomundo concerning the killing of Bigfoot. Coleman responded to comments on his post Taking a Stand Against Killing Bigfoot about this subject back in April of 2012:

The kill-it-to-prove-it stance is a simple Victorian view of the world that is quite out-of-date. At the end of the 19th century, hundreds of animals were killed to “prove” they exist. James Audubon killed thousands of birds to identify, draw, and paint them.

Those days are in the past. 

There is no reason that Bigfootery, Sasquatch studies, and hominology should grasp the antiquated forms of species verification. DNA studies, live captures, capture and release, and species studied while in captivity allow for many modern scientific and humane methods of species confirmation. As soon as Bigfoot organizations realize that, they will be taken more seriously by funding and scholarly bodies. ~ Loren Coleman

If you haven't read Coleman's piece be sure to do so.

"Sasquatch Must Die" From Who Forted?

Another piece supporting a Kill, from Who Forted?: Sasquatch Must Die: Why Cryptozoology Needs a Body - Who Forted? Magazine  by Kwin the Eskimo. A lot of assumptions -- cynical too -- like this:

 It needs to be made clear that the “no-kill crowd” has an agenda. It may come as a shock to some, but many people support a no-kill philosophy only to preserve their own standing. They know that if a body is found that they will be out of business. All their paid “Bigfoot excursions” will come to a halt. No more “membership dues” to bogus organizations. They will be relegated to the background as academia and grant-funded scientists take over. The hobbyists will need to find a new cryptid (or mythical creation) of which to declare themselves experts.

He continues on this point for another paragraph before moving on to another attack of no-kill supporters. His argument is that the idea Bigfoot is close to human, and therefore should not be killed,  is ridiculous. Bigfoot is only an animal after all.  What he misses, either intentionally or out of ignorance, is that many no-kill activists don't believe Bigfoot should be killed regardless of a human-like link. Animal -- and us humans are animals as well -- or human, we don't get to kill one simply because we think we get to. We don't get to.

To justify his point that killing Bigfoot is okay, since Bigfoot is just a big animal,   Kwin the Eskimo has a quote from Finding Bigfoot's Bobo Fay:

"Not every Squatch is a rocket scientist. I'm sure there are some dumber ones, and that one might just have been one of the dumb ones."

No kill proponents are doing major damage to science (which is "...cold and heartless. It's science!" There is a lot wrong with that statement but that's another issue for another day) and are to be exiled to the fringes:

Those with the “no-kill” philosophy should be relegated to the “Sasquatch is a shape-shifter, trans-dimensional, UFO pilot” camp.  Their position does nothing to further professional research or bring any legitimacy to the field.

Now, as a "Sasquatch is a shape-shifter, trans-dimensional, UFO pilot" adherent myself (not sure about the UFO pilot part, but anyhow) I do understand, perfectly well, not every Bigfoot researcher out there agrees with this view. Some put this in their gray baskets, some laugh, some get angry, and so on. But to suggest that anyone who is no-kill belongs in the same boat with us Bigfoot is a faery/paranormal entity/ realm is trivializing the somber and serious kill/no kill issue.

In patronizing detail, the article starts out with an explanation of why a Bigfoot must be killed. Without a body, science and the world won't have proof it exists. That's a big "duh" there, kill boy. This obvious point is understood; I think we all get that a dead body will prove to the world Bigfoot exists. That's not the point.

The point is, for those witnesses fortunate enough to have seen Bigfoot, they know it exists. For many others, like myself, we choose to believe our friends and family when they tell us they've seen a Sasquatch, and to believe such a creature exists. No, I can't say it does exist,  since I haven't seen one myself. I can't say it exists because I don't know beyond a doubt. When I see one (because one can hope) then I can say it does.

What kill proponents don't understand is that Bigfoot isn't our property, our thing that we own. We don't get to kill it. We don't get to harass it. When out in the field looking for it, we don't even get to do the stupid things many field researchers do; hooting and clanging about and generally acting stupid while annoying all kinds of wildlife, not to mention whatever other humans might be afoot out there.

Science won't believe Sasquatch exists until they get a dead body. Many of us get that, but we don't care.

As to any agendas, being of the no-kill "crowd" the only agenda I have is to keep blood lusting clown shoes from going out into the wilds to kill a creature simply to prove to science it exists.

And then what? Science acknowledges Bigfoot is real; the world now knows. So what? It's a question that isn't asked often enough; the discussion stops at the kill/no kill dividing line. Let's look at the aftermath of a kill. What next? What do we do with this information? How would the reality of Bigfoot affect laws, communities, land, ... it's a long list and affects many levels, from the pragmatic to the metaphysical.

As long as there are those out there being vocal about supporting a Kill agenda, I'll be as vocal speaking against such a view.

Ghost Hunting Theories: Bigfoot: Biggest Covert Operation Or Biggest Hoax?

Like what Ghost Hunting Theories has to say here! Ghost Hunting Theories: Bigfoot: Biggest Covert Operation Or Biggest Hoax? For myself, I am not a witness to Sasquatch, and yet do believe they exist. So, yeah, I'm a Believer without proof,though I have always said, I have to acknowledge I don't know Sasquatch exists, because I don't know, not having seen one. Yet.

Bizarre Bigfoot blog

Thought I'd promote a good Bigfoot blog that I like: Bizarre Bigfoot

Bigfoot Hunter Shoots Friend

Thankfully, the victim is in stable condition, and so I don't feel bad saying: what a couple of goddamned idiots. Armed, hunting themselves a Sasquatch, something, according to the officer, "spooked" the shooter, who went off and shot his friend. No drugs or alcohol involved. Which means, devoid of being under the influence of anything, except obvious stupidity, these morons truly got what they deserved.

My Reminder Why I don't cotton to Bigfoot Evidence blog

Told myself some time ago I wouldn't take Bigfoot Evidence seriously, due to their gratuitous and gleeful animals eating animals porn. So I go over there just to see what I can see, not having been there for awhile. Sure enough, third post down or so, is a link and clip of a snake regurgitating a dog. Nice.

This has nothing to do with Sasquatch, and everything to do with jollies to get the yee haw crowd to join.

No, I'm not linking to the blog, but if you're excitable and want to see that crap for yourself, there's Google.

On Cryptomundo: Justin Smeja Gives His Thoughts on Bigfoot

On Cryptomundo: Justin Smeja Gives His Thoughts on Bigfoot.

Another Bigfoot investigator who justifies the killing of a Sasquatch. Reasons really don't matter, because there is no reason. (Possilby self-defense, but that's another issue, and not one that concerns Mr. Smeja.)

Aside from my not unsurprising disagreement with Justin Smeja's quest to kill, is my response to the tone of his post. It's a bit unnerving, and borders, to my mind, on the uhinged. For one brief moment, forget about personal views on kill/no kill --- Smeja's seems truly off the rails.For example, Smeja's following comments concerning the "stupid argument to kill or not to kill."

This is a stupid arguement to kill or not to kill, if your that worked up about it you have too much time on your hands. Its like arguing its wrong for someone to spend all their money on drugs if they win the lottery (in my case twice). DNA is no longer good enough. Specially in this field. For the sake of time lets just assume that I know more about DNA results findings and protocols then 98 percent of you. Ive worked first hand with countless labs and doctors on this subject over the last 3 years. If a bodies drug in by a researcher tomorrow the blood of that individual is partly on melbas hands, because of her we need a body. We need a body not a sequence.

Being "worked up" about killing a Sasquatch is hardly the pointless hobby of bored individuals. That thinking is certainly disingenuous. As to the analogy of spending lottery winnings on drugs, I say: WTF?!

The truth is I waver back and forth some days Im 100% no kill. I’ve lost more sleep on the subject because of my actions then any of you. I’ve made peace with my actions besides the occasional nightmare.

Always difficult to say things about the things others say, because no one knows what goes on in someone's head. But, I'll say it anyway: no, Justin Smeja, you do not "waver back and forth some days I'm 1005 no kill." Because if you were 100% no kill, there'd be no wavering.

Conference this weekend focuses on Bigfoot, the paranormal - Farmington Daily Times

Conference this weekend focuses on Bigfoot, the paranormal - Farmington Daily Times

Cryptomundo: Bigfoot Contactees

     This is from a little over three years ago: Cryptomundo:Bigfoot Contactees. But the comments are interesting, if not at times, infuriating, because nothing has changed. Like many aspects of the UFO phenomena, the idea that Bigfoot-as-anything-other-than-a-giant-ape gets us nowhere. Of course, that's what they say as well. It's an endless loop -- if someone has supernatural or paranormal experiences involving Bigfoot, then, following the logic inherent in that realm, no physical proof, let alone evidence, exists. Since none exists, such stories are, at best, fanciful accounts created by bored, lonely and even unstable minds, or, at worst, those out to intentionally defraud. The interdiction in these accounts is that no evidence can possibly be collected. Which means, to the flesh and blood adherents, it's all bunk. Which, hint hint, means the phenomena, again like the UFO phenomena and other supernatural events, wants us to believe just that.  Oh, those silly tricksters!
     The exasperating part of all this is that the refusal of those who insist that Sasquatch is "just" an animal, that there are no such things as fairies, or supernatural entities, that the seeming contradictions within these stories are intentionally contradictory -- as well as elusive -- are not being accurate in their research.

Breaking News: Reporter says Ketchum DNA double checked, is not from a “Novel & Non-Human Species” | Squatchdetective's Blog

Oh well. Back to it then. Breaking News: Reporter says Ketchum DNA double checked, is not from a “Novel & Non-Human Species” | Squatchdetective's Blog

The Chairback Pond Bigfoot encounter | Bigfoot Tales

Bigfoot Tales; an encounter from 1908:The Chairback Pond Bigfoot encounter | Bigfoot Tales

Tonight on A&E Shipping wars

Tonight on A&E Shipping wars

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Tim Marczenko says he wasn’t growing pot, he was searching for Bigfoot | Posted Toronto | National Post

Tim Marczenko says he wasn’t growing pot, he was searching for Bigfoot | Posted Toronto | National Post: A Toronto man claims he was harassed for walking through thick brush in Durham region by a police officer who accused him of being a pot grower.

Tim Marczenko denies the claim, saying he wasn’t growing dope, he was investigating sightings of Bigfoot.

“He asked me, ‘What are you doing out here?’ I told him I was investigating a Bigfoot report and he said, ‘Wow, you’re a terrible liar,’ ” said Mr. Marczenko. ” ‘I know it sounds crazy but I’m not lying about it,’ I said. He kept telling me I was lying about the situation.”

Sasquatch Watch Radio: Bigfoot Groups, Are they Valuable? 06/25 by SasquatchWatch Radio | Blog Talk Radio

Sasquatch Watch Radio: Bigfoot Groups, Are they Valuable? 06/25 by SasquatchWatch Radio | Blog Talk Radio

UFOs & Cryptozoology with Stan Gordon on C2C

This is what I live for; UFOs and cryptids. Researcher Stan Gordon is tonight's guest on Coast to Coast, with host George Noory.UFOs and  Cryptozoology - Shows - Coast to Coast AMUFOs and Cryptozoology - Shows - Coast to Coast AM

Three experts disagree on bonding with a sasquatch - Three experts disagree on bonding with a sasquatch: Members

Very nice article. Arla Williams posted on FB that she did not say BF aren't human, as was reported in the article. Three experts disagree on bonding with a sasquatch - Three experts disagree on bonding with a sasquatch: Members

Poll: What is Bigfoot? - Coast to Coast AM

Poll: What is Bigfoot? - Coast to Coast AM

Yowie sighted at Bexhill - witness asks to stay anonymous | Northern Star

 Recent Yowie sighting. Thanks to Anomalist for link.

Yowie sighted at Bexhill - witness asks to stay anonymous | Northern Star: CALL it what you will: A Yeren, a Yeti or a Yowie, but the fact remains that people the world over keep seeing these big hairy buggers lurking in the night.

The latest sighting took place recently just north of Bexhill when a Lismore resident and music videographer spied the classic creature crossing a moonlit Bangalow Road.

Tonight's C2C: Bigfoot & Cryptozoology

Bigfoot & Cryptozoology - Shows - Coast to Coast AM

"...Sasquatch a part of life, no different than raccoons"

From Bizarre Bigfoot, a classically fringe Bigfoot narrative:

"Displaced Bigfoot | Bizarre Bigfoot: We moved in when I was two and by age four or five I considered Sasquatch a part of life and no different than racoons. They are around but meant and did not mean any harm.

I would see one most often when looking out my bedroom window from age 5 on. My mother loved my father and dealt with the area because of that she hated the area and grew up in the city she had one option to avoid boredom that being learning to garden. I remember watching as one would come to the garden and take her crops. She was funny because she did not care and the idea was to pass time not harvest the crops.?

Cryptomundo MAY 26th | Portland, Oregon Bigfoot Event: CIA, Spies and Bigfooting with Thom Powell

It's HopsSquatch! May 26th, Portland Oregon. For press release go to Cryptomundo:Cryptomundo MAY 26th | Portland, Oregon Bigfoot Event: CIA, Spies and Bigfooting with Thom Powell

From JREF: "Bigfoot" **Impossible** and not just non-existent?'

Making this Bigfoot thread 432 millionity:"Bigfoot" **Impossible** and not just non-existent? - JREF Forum. I love that: it's not "just non-existent" but impossible!!! Perfect.

The Circus Returns: 'Film featuring killing of Bigfoot in San Antonio premieres'

Here we go again, with the hucksters and hoaxers manipulating the need in some to kill themselves a Bigfoot. All aspects of Bigfoot research is fair game for para-tainment purposes, including blood lust.

Film featuring killing of Bigfoot in San Antonio premieres | News - Home

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Bigfoot and Beer: Brewing Company Offers Sasquatch Capture Prize | Who Forted? Magazine

Who Forted? shares info about a Washington State offer of big prize money for solid proof of Sasquatch. (thanks to The Daily Grail for link.)

Bigfoot and Beer: Brewing Company Offers Sasquatch Capture Prize | Who Forted? Magazine: Bigfoot and beer, what could go wrong? No offense to beer drinkers around the world, but I hope that we do not get a bunch of drunk hunters chasing down every hairy animal in the woods near them.

Ancient creature mixed human, apelike traits - Yahoo! News

Ancient creature mixed human, apelike traits - Yahoo! News: NEW YORK (AP) — Scientists have gained new insights into an extinct South African creature with an intriguing mix of human and apelike traits, and apparently an unusual way of walking. But they still haven't pinned down where it fits on our evolutionary family tree.

It will take more fossil discoveries to sort that out.

The human branch of the evolutionary tree, called Homo, is thought to have arisen from a group of ancient species called australopithecines. The newly studied species is a member of this group, and so its similarities to humans are enticing for tackling the riddle of how Homo appeared.

It's called Australopithecus sediba (aw-STRAL-oh-PITH-uh-kus se-DEE-bah), which means "southern ape, wellspring." It lived some 2 million years ago, and it both climbed in trees and walked upright. Its remains were discovered in 2008 when the 9-year-old son of a paleoanthropologist accidently came across a bone in South Africa.

Killing Bigfoot OK in Texas – if he's Texan | Fox News

And I fell for it! Oh well...Killing Bigfoot OK in Texas – if he's Texan | Fox News

Animal Legal Defense Fund Sues to Stop Texas Bigfoot Hunt

Good for them! Animal Legal Defense Fund Sues to Stop Texas Bigfoot Hunt:

AUSTIN — Today, the national nonprofit Animal Legal Defense Fund (ALDF) is filing a lawsuit against the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, requesting judicial review of the agency's May 2012 administrative finding that Bigfoot is an indigenous "nongame" species that can therefore be hunted without a permit. The Texas Administrative Procedures Act requires that administrative findings are "reasonably supported by substantial evidence." The suit alleges that the agency's designation is arbitrary and capricious due to a lack of credible evidence supporting its conclusion that the elusive primate is indigenous to the state of Texas, and cites a preponderance of evidence that the man-beast is instead native to Northern California.

For more, see article.

Dreamtime and the Alien/Bigfoot Connection: Part 2- Is it all True Series #274 | Truth Seeker Forum

Dreamtime and the Alien/Bigfoot Connection: Part 2- Is it all True Series #274 | Truth Seeker Forum

Bigfoot Crossword

Found this in a stack of old magazines; this is from a "special" glossy editon of Weekly World News. Don't have the date, think it's about ten years old.

Frontiers of Zoology: Another Alaskan Bigfoot Sighting

Meanwhile (see post below re: Ketchum) Bigfoot is still being seen; this report from January of this year, in Alaska. Frontiers of Zoology: Another Alaskan Bigfoot Sighting

Bigfoot News | Bigfoot Lunch Club: Two Clear Possibilities for Bigfoot: Hybrid or Mutant

Interesting article, with equally interesting comments, at Bigfoot Lunch Club, on Dr. Ketchum's research. Dr. Tyler Kochjohn is quoted, as others , and while much debate and confusion, scramblings and speculations continue, it does seem one thing is becoming clearer, and that is that something unknown/weird is out there. Bigfoot News | Bigfoot Lunch Club: Two Clear Possibilities for Bigfoot: Hybrid or Mutant

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Bigfoot News | Bigfoot Lunch Club: Thom Powell Drinks the Ketchum Kool-Aid

I'm not on either side, (though I guess, if one has to even play the game and choose a side, I'm with Ketchum. Pretty much) but I respect both of these guys and appreciate each of their views. So here you go:Bigfoot News | Bigfoot Lunch Club: Thom Powell Drinks the Ketchum Kool-Aid

Cryptomundo:Finding Bigfoot on the Jeff Probst Show

On Cryptomundo, a clip of the Finding Bigfoot team on the Jeff Probst Show: Cryptomundo  Finding Bigfoot on the Jeff Probst Show. (I liked what Cliff said about Probst's use of the pronoun "he" to describe Bigfoot. Still wish they'd all stop using the term "Squatch" however.) Also liked what Ranee had to say. And she's the skeptic! :)

Ghost Hunting Theories: Are Bigfoot Ancient Giants' Feral Descendants?

Interesting theory, and not at all impossible:Ghost Hunting Theories: Are Bigfoot Ancient Giants' Feral Descendants?

Awesome Certified Bigfoot Sasquatch Hair RARE | eBay

No idea who this seller is, but can't resist sharing. Just think, you can own a Bigfoot hair! Description comes with a story:Awesome Certified Bigfoot Sasquatch Hair RARE | eBay

He was about to pull his gun up to take a shot when a big animal walking on two feet came rushing out of the brush. It was carrying a huge rock over its head and threw it at the nearest elk killing it. The animal then grabbed the elk by a leg and dragged it off. Now if you know elk, you just can’t drag one off, they are easily 300 to 600 lbs on the hoof.

And so on.

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(cross posted, with minor alterations at UFOMystic.)

After listening to another intriguing and spooky interview with David Paulides (Coast to Coast, George Knapp host) last night, I found myself rethinking not only Dr. Ketchum, but Bigfoot as well.

For awhile I was excited about what Dr. Melba Ketchum would find. So was last night's C2C host George Knapp, who interviewed Dr. Melba Ketchum some time ago. Lots of games, it seemed, lots of attacks, lots of the to be expected nonsense in the world of Bigfoot.  (UFO World doesn't fare any better in this context.) Then I was disappointed and jaded. Then I just didn't care. 

But if David Paulides's explanation on the entire Ketchum journey was accurate -- no journal would review her findings, etc. -- and if the evidence is truly what it says it is, then there's still hope. And bafflement, for it seems everyone just walked away from this. Of course, I haven't read the report, and Paulides pointed out that many who criticized Ketchum and the findings haven't actually read the thing. I can't comment much more than these idle musings of mine because I am not a scientist, and I haven't read the report; just the reports of reports. It is also too bad Ketchum seems to have behaved badly at times. Maybe this was due to simply being overwhelmed by her lone seeker status out there in Bigfoot Land. Lots of naivety, at best, and silly sloppy missteps seemed to have happened, adding to a carnival-like,  here we go again feeling in Bigfoot Land.  But all that can be ignored if the evidence is what it's supposed to be: Bigfoot is not a giant ape, but something completely different. That's huge of course and huger still: Bigfoot is both its own mysterious self, as well as part of us. Yet after a few people acknowledged this finding, people went missing. Some were offended, some laughed, but we haven't seen any paradigm shifting news stories break on CNN. 

Meanwhile, David Paulides continues his research into the strange stories of missing humans in parks and forests. Many of these missing are children. He alludes to the possibility;  Bigfoot, or a Bigfoot like creature, as being responsible for these disappearances. The few children who have been found alive after going missing for a few days have strange tales to tell of "ape men" and other high strangeness. In last night's interview on C2C, Paulides referred to Native Americans and their tales of Bigfoot -- as being human -- and their on-going relationships with this being. Yet, with some exceptions, most, including BF researchers, ignore this fact.

What's strange about the missing humans is that they disappear abruptly, often in daylight, often while in the near proximity of others. While logic says these missing people would be found downhill, or near water, they are often found (if found at all) quite a distance aways, and uphill, over extremely rough terrain difficult to cover. Very weird for adults, and much stranger still in the case of little children. Stories of "ape men," and other inexpiable events add to this mystery. Adding fuel to conspiratorial speculation (which doesn't mean it's invalid) is the presence of military in some of these cases, who act covertly and separate from parks authorities and local law enforcement agencies while ostensibly searching for the missing.

IF Bigfoot is responsible for these disappearances, that's cause for a shift in beliefs about we think Bigfoot is. Many of these stories contain really weird "high strangeness" elements that have always annoyed many a Bigfoot researcher. UFOs? Aliens? Underground beings -- reptilians? Of the latter, Paulides said he's received a few detailed emails about that subject, but he is unfamiliar with that realm and doesn't want to go there. He referenced John Mack and his work concerning abductions -- will we hear of a Bigfoot/UFO theory from Paulides in the future?

There's enough strangeness, and enough references to a Bigfoot creature, in Paulides missing persons work, to consider that Bigfoot is more than "just" a big ape, or strictly a flesh and blood creature. It's possible this BF being is a variation of Bigfoot, another type, related or something else altogether; something that looks like an "ape man" but clearly has abilities transcending ours at the moment.

'11 crazy Bigfoot conspiracy theories'

MSM fluff piece on the more outlandish theories on what Bigfoot is. Yes, aliens is an included topic. While I appreciate where they're coming from on much of this (even while disagreeing) I don't understand why "Bigfoot buries its dead" is considered a wacky theory. 11 crazy Bigfoot conspiracy theories - Yahoo! News

Nick Redfern:Lair of the Beasts: Bigfoot: The Problem of Food - Mania.com

"Lair of the Beasts: Bigfoot: The Problem of Food - Mania.com: Many researchers of the Bigfoot phenomenon take the view that the hairy, man-like beasts are some form of unknown ape. Or, they suggest that the creatures may represent a surviving, relic population of the presumed long-extinct, ancient ape known as Gigantopithecus, I, however, do not.


Rather, I take the stance that Bigfoot is stranger than either of the above scenarios; in fact, much stranger. Indeed, it’s fair to say I think Bigfoot is a beast of paranormal – rather than flesh and blood – origins. There’s a good reason I say that. It has to do with Bigfoot’s eating habits. Or, more correctly, it’s lack of eating habits.


This is something, without doubt, most noticeable when it comes to the matter of Bigfoot in Britain – for which literally dozens and dozens of reports exist."

Dr. Melba Ketchum and, Oh, ... sigh

I supported Melba Ketchum's efforts awhile back. I really didn't expect much to begin with, but I was hoping. But now, it just seems, well, you know. Read some here :Bigfoot News | Bigfoot Lunch Club: Ketchum Paper "Peer Reviewed" by Academic Professor, and catch up on related links at The Anomalist.

Bigfoot Expert Discusses his Sighting at MUFON Meeting - Sherman Oaks, CA Patch

Been long fascinated by David Paulides' research!Bigfoot Expert Discusses his Sighting at MUFON Meeting - Sherman Oaks, CA Patch

"Crowdsourcing Bigfoot"

From Ghost Theory, this item on Dr. Jeff Meldrum's latest plan to find Bigfoot. Sounds more promising than the balloon idea. Crowdsourcing Bigfoot. I wonder if the use of infra red and other ghost hunting technology would be useful? Wouldn't hurt. Such use easily moves away from the strict "flesh and blood" realm, and more so if we would include the use of psychics, pendulums, dowsing and other esoteric techniques, which even some ghost hunters avoid, favoring pure technical means. But I'm going off on a tangent here.

Think I'll sign up; why not.

Flix, the Creature in Conser Lake: Bigfoot, UFOs and Monsters in Oregon and Elsewhere by Regan Lee | LibraryThing

So damn embarrassing! I wrote this years ago and self published it, not even that, just photocopied it and sold it on ebay. I actually sold some. Of course now, I would never put out such a thing! I found it on this site, to my dismay!Flix, the Creature in Conser Lake: Bigfoot, UFOs and Monsters in Oregon and Elsewhere by Regan Lee | LibraryThing

Gratuitous Non-Bigfoot Blood Lust

Just my personal little war on a Bigfoot blog that shall not be named nor linked to, but once again I see they have posted footage (vintage TV) of someone killing a deer with his bare hands and drinking its blood, or some such. Details don't matter. What does matter is that this has nothing to do with Bigfoot, and everything to do with animal porn, to drive visitors to their site. Not the first time they've posted this type of blood lust crap; won't be the last. Their excuse, as they once posted, was something along the lines of (paraphrasing, naturally) "Bigfoot probably eats like this in the wild so why not it's all good."Disingenuous bullshit.

Sharon Eby Cornet: Vanishing Bigfoot and Anecdotal Accounts

Nice find! Thanks to S.A.R. who left a comment, with the suggestion I look up Sharon Eby Cornet (see post below.) More to come on this.Vanishing Bigfoot and Anecdotal Accounts

Local Bigfoot Sightings

Another story from someone I know who saw a Bigfoot one night while driving on a rural highway in Oregon.

Not much in way of details: it was fall, night, they (her friend) saw it cross the road. Both positive of what they saw.

Both also, as with all the stories I've personally heard from individuals, familiar with Oregon wildlife, and used to the outdoors. Camping, hunting, living in rural areas; they know what things are. And they know when something out of the ordinary looms up in front of their faces.

As always with stories like these, I have to wonder at the knee jerk reaction from debunkers and "skeptics." This woman was not lying. All the other people I've known, who have told me their stories, were not lying. They are also a diverse group of people in terms of age, profession, gender, etc. What they have in common is a familiarity of the local outdoors, and a love of the outdoors, and damn well know an elk from a bear from a coyote from a cougar. (One witness's Bigfoot sighting was such a profound experience this person continues to look for Bigfoot many years later.)

Spooky! 'Bigfoot or animals? Strange sounds coming from swamp on Umatilla Indian Reservation'

(thanks to Lesley Gunter for this link!) Bigfoot or animals? Strange sounds coming from swamp on Umatilla Indian Reservation (listen) | OregonLive.com. Audio of strange -- and even spooky -- sounds. They remind me of EVPs (electronic voice phenomena) in the sense there is that odd not-of-this-realm sensation. Also chuffing type sounds, chatterings, and almost human like sounds. I'd love to explore this; sadly, work schedule does not allow!

Of course the question of comparison comes to mind. Does this sound similar to baby foxes? Here is a site I found with several audio clips of various fox calls. Here's one that's described as having a human sounding voice at the end, and it does sound close to what's on the Umatilla tape.

Who can say. I'm no expert on fox or cougar sounds. It's possible that people in the area know what foxes and other animals of the region sound like, and wouldn't be so quick to jump to the Bigfoot connection.

It could be Bigfoot, it could be shape shifting entities, it could be fox season.

PENDLETON -- Baby foxes or Bigfoot?

The eerie late-night serenades began in November and emanate from a brushy swamp on the Umatilla Indian Reservation east of Pendleton. The cries range from high-pitched screams to basso profundo roars.

"It's causing an uproar around here," said Sylvia Minthorn, who lives in a tribal housing unit near the swamp, where she used to play as a child.

She's seen grown men's hair stand on end when the shrieks commence.

Colleen Chance, a tribal housing authority employee, keeps a recording of the howls on her iPhone.

"It's kind of spooky," she said. "Some say it's foxes, some say it's a female coyote and some say it's Sasquatch. I don't know what it is."

No Kill Philosophy: Bigfoot Reference Guide

image source:Bigfoot Reference Guide

Found this site; they promote a No Kill view. However, I'm not sure how active they are at this time. Their forum messages don't appear to be current. The most recent thread I found was from 2010.Bigfoot Reference Guide:

We are a NO KILL organization. We firmly believe such an action is totally unnecessary, immoral, unwise, and disregards the rights of the Bigfoot by scheming to murder one, The Bigfoot peoples, while ordinarily very respectful of humans, will without hesitation use every means to protect one of their own from harm and will do whatever is necessary, including kill, in their own defense. We urge other researchers in this field to please not attempt to shoot or corner a Bigfoot, as this places people in harms way and frustrates the efforts of those who, like us, have been so successful in establishing friendly relations with these incredible people. Please respect these hidden Peoples as they respect us. Please joins us in our firm NO KILL convictions.

Mail Online: 'New Yeti resort to be opened in Siberia to encourage tourists to catch the Abominable Snowman'

Depending on one's point of view, this is either very cool, or it's another scheme to bring in tourism and the money that comes with it. Regardless of motivations, it is pretty cool. As to the money; can't blame them for that. But I'm wary of the push for "...tourists to find the elusive creature," along with a monetary reward. That will potentionally attract gun happy fools who think killing a Bigfoot/Yeti is justified. And the idea of containing a Yeti within a park designed for its captivity seems extremely unrealistic.

New Yeti resort to be opened in Siberia to encourage tourists to catch the Abominable Snowman | Mail Online: A new Yeti resort is to be opened in Russia to encourage tourists to find the elusive creature.

The planned Yeti Park in Sheregesh, Siberia will include a hotel and a museum, and is intended to attract those keen to be the first to prove the existence of the yeti.

The region's governor Aman Tuleyev has offered a 20,500 reward - one million roubles - to anyone who can catch a yeti and prove its existence. 'I'll sit down with him, chat and have a cup of tea,' he promised.

But the best part are the opinions of Igor Idimeshev,  "...deputy head of Sheregesh's local council in Siberia, and the man behind the new park" who says this about the Yeti's origins and characteristics:

And when I saw the yeti's eyes my only thought was that they are not from Earth - they are clearly of an extraterrestrial nature.

'To me, the yeti is an extraterrestrial creature. I believe that it is like a controller to look over things here on Earth.'

Mr Idimeshev added that the creature - known as Big Men by locals - could 'suddenly disappear and re-materialise'

He added: 'Another extraordinary thing is that yeti's hair is luminous at night, and also that the Yeti can walk on water.

'Every man round here sees him when he hunts. It's all right to mention the fact of meeting - but we don't go into the details of it, like where exactly it was, what he did do, or your luck will be gone.'

JREF Bigfoot Thread Eleveny-Million: "Bigfoot hunter is upset at being excluded from show"

Who knows how many Bigfoot threads there are at the JREF, I stopped counting a long time ago. But there are always new ones popping up, and here's one of them:Bigfoot hunter is upset at being excluded from show - JREF Forum

As usual, I will point out that it just makes me laugh to see so many separate threads about a creature the majority of members insist doesn't exist.

The thread linked to here is about Spike TV's planned program 10 Million Bigfoot Bounty, the show that offers prize money for finding Bigfoot. Thoroughly disgusting concept of course, since, in order to win the prize, one must show that they have a dead Bigfoot body.

Conser Lake Photos Uncreditied at Paranormal Albany, Oregon

Found this place on HUB looking for Conser Lake "monster" information:Paranormal Albany, Oregon. And saw that Mike Miner, who is an experienced writer/researcher in the field and therefore should know better, used two of my snapshots of Conser Lake without my permission, citation of source, or links back to relevant blogs.

So there you go.

Conser Lake, Millersburg Oregon. photo: Regan Lee

Path leading to Conser Lake, Millersburg OR. photo: Regan Lee

I actually don't mind people using my stuff without asking first BUT. And that's a huge BUT. I expect credit given, at the very least, and links back to appropriate blogs.

Today in Bigfoot History!: 1963, Conser Lake Oregon, White Hair Muscle Giant

From Today in Bigfoot History! this little summary of the Conser Lake Creature:1963, Conser Lake Oregon, White Hair Muscle Giant TODAY IN BIGFOOT HISTORY! What's really interesting to me however is the very long comment from someone claiming to be from the area and encountering the creature. Here's an excerpt (I left grammar, spelling as is):

Im just gonna say this about the Conser lake monster or Flix as you might hear it called…. It truly was fast and would SHINE after MOON or light hit it or would come to its white fur. Or was it truly WHITE n LIGHTNING fast when we came around its Lake hideout where MOON n SHINE its fur could be seen so it had to scare us away…? Those are BOLD words for me to say its the truth if you catch my drift. Or was it the truth is my BOLD words were the drift of what it was caught for? It was so long ago its hard to remember it STILL…haha. Or was it STILL I remember so long ago about the Conser lake monster being caught? Guess if your a certain type you see what I mean and knuckle heads and school kids are in awe of my strange and confusing ramblings unknown by them but known to some since we seen what’s being read not read what’s been seen… Too deep for you? So is the story of the Conser lake monster!!

Parallels in West Virginia Story to Creature of Conser Lake

This is from About.com, 2005: Creature at Secluded Cabin,by Neal Everett. This encounter took place in southwest Virginia. The following description of the Bigfoot like creature parallels "Flix," the "Ghost in Conser Lake, Oregon sightings in the early 1960s. From Everett's article, this description of the creature:

Your True Tales - November 2005 - Story of the Month - Creature at Secluded Cabin: What I saw next still baffles me. At my truck there was a creature standing upright, about 7 feet tall with huge claws on its "hands." It had white hair that was almost gray, but I couldn't really see its eyes. It seemed to be searching around the bed of my truck and was paying no attention to the now-frantic dog. When the lights first came on, it did nothing but continue its search, but it then looked up at the deck.

By now I was frozen in horror and it turned around and made eye contact with me. It then made a horrible screeching sound, almost as if it was in terror from the sight of me. At first it seemed as if it was going to charge at me and climb the steps onto the deck. But then in a terrorized rage it made another screech and "sprinted" away. It ran upright and its claws almost went past its knees.

I've been studying the Conser Lake story for some time. Here's a description of the creature from an article I wrote for Oregon L.O.W.F.I.:

Path leading to Conser Lake photo: Regan Lee

Mrs. Penning in Devers-Conner, about 30 miles south of Millersburg, told Betty Westby she heard “dripping sounds,” even though it was August. It is interesting that Mrs. Penning described the “dripping” sound; remember that Flix’s footsteps were also described as “squishy.” Looking out her living room window she saw a “large, light form,” hurrying away, and heard a “low pitched cry that seems to start from its toes, tapering off to a squeal like a pig’s.” Penning also fond fingerprints on her bedroom window, and Westby spectacled that they were web shaped, due to the four fingered, spread-out shape of the prints.

Three years later, the story of the Creature of Conser Lake was still news. In an article by Martin Clark, Albany Journal staff writer, he comments on writer Keith Sosebe’s upcoming talk on the “monster.”
Leaping from the shadow of a deep gully, the thing stood fully 7 feet tall in the ghostly moonlight. Petrified with mingled horror and curiosity, the young people sat motionless in their car. Suddenly, the apparition took at enormous leap over the gully and slipped away trough a tangle of boughs.”

Cryptozoologist and biologist Ivan T. Sanderson discussed the Conser Lake monster briefly in his book Abominable Snowmen:Legend Come to Life, citing a small item that appeared in the January, 1961 edition of FATE magazine, reporting that the “monster” was “still on the loose.” Sanderson also writes in Abominable Snowmen that a source wrote Sanderson in October of 1960, insisting that there was not only the one Flix, but several “Flixes” in the area. According to Sanderson’s unnamed friend, there were more than one BHM, several in fact, and fingerprint as well as footprint casts were taken. Referring to Flix, the letter writer described the creature:

he makes extremely high pitched sounds. his hair or fur had slight glow in the dark . . .feet make a squishy sound. Has been seen at day and night and seen to disappear into the lake.”

From another post of mine on the creature at Oregon L.O.W.F.I.:

Conser Lake, OR photo: Regan Lee

The creature was called the “Creature of Conser Lake,” also the “Ghost of Conser Lake” (because of its white color) . . . Reported as a bigfoot type creature; about seven feet tall, bipedal, white shaggy fur, . . . a Millersburg truck driver was understandably startled to find a white, shaggy furred bigfoot type creature trotting along beside his truck as he was driving down the road. The driver, a mint farmer, was going about 35 miles an hour; the creature was easily keeping pace with the moving vehicle. . . Flix was Bigfoot like in many ways, yet there were other characteristics described by witnesses that are strange. Flix was said to have claws and or webbed feet and hands and cat like ears.